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#451 – An Interview with Scott Miller (2nd)

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Welcome Scott Miller, CEO of Dragon Innovation!

  • Scott was originally on The Amp Hour in episode 113
  • Dragon raised money from VCs and was acquired by Avnet 2 years ago.
  • Non traditional customers (avocado example) don’t want to stand up a hardware team
  • Dragon/Avnet built a toolbox for IoT, so don’t need to recreate
  • Scooters
  • Education is important for customers
  • BOM health risk assessment
  • MLCCs had 72 week leadtime
  • Supply chain risk over time
  • Dragon is now moving up the chain
  • “Product as a service” (PaaS)
  • Pricing in the costs of repairs and support
  • Not many other companies doing that sort of thing these days (yet)
  • GE was trying to do with engines
  • Risk is that the customer goes another direction
  • There are now stockholders to think of (being part of Avnet)
  • Scott is seeing a trend in the US of a constriction of B2C startups, but more industrial IoT
  • High profile bankruptcies
    • Anki
    • Mayfield Robotics
  • Excited about growth in Europe, including more building in EU.
  • Companies moving out of China quickly (due to 25% tariffs) but into other Asian countries
  • Taiwan, Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia
  • RFQ would normally have 3-5 quotes, maybe half of them from China.
  • Now doing it on a more global basis
  • How are factories being chosen?
  • Looking to get to domestic factories every month to build out their “Contract Manufacturer Database” (CMDB). Vetted factories are a service that Dragon provides to customers.
  • “Vietnam is like China 10-15 years ago”
  • 2000 global factories on the CMBD
  • Trying to build up the list for Mexico factories.
  • What are some of the cultural differences for things coming back on an RFQ?
    • China is more vertical. Or at least it looks like it’s vertical.  Integrated CM would make their own cardboard!
  • Labor costs are $5-6 per hour in China right now.
  • Depending on the region and the factory
  • Factory owners are really focused on automation
  • Making their own soldering iron robot
  • Home grown automation
  • Focus on flexibility of the robots
  • Strategic focus from every factory
  • Tier 1, 2 ,3 contract manufacturers
  • Tier 1 has access to more capital, so have fancier technology
  • Level of tracking is really good, to tell for returns
  • Used to be a prof at Olin
  • Took all the lectures and put them on Dragon Website
  • Scott does AMA sessions as well!
  • Pulling manufacturing knowledge back into design
  • Get to 80% done to bring in a factory
  • Pulling data back into the process for BOM
  • BOM health risk assessment
  • Most Dragon customers are between 5000 units -1M
  • Pebble and Dropcam examples
  • Most started small, needed to get in early
  • Ring example
  • Dragoninnovation.com
  • DFMA courses

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