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#266 – An Interview with Ronald Sousa of Hash Define Electronics

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Ronald Sousa Hash Define Electronics

Quick announcement: Chris will be in Portland for XOXO fest and will be running a hangout Friday September 11th at the Lucky Lab Brew Pub from 4-6pm. Bring your projects!

Welcome, Ronald Sousa of Hash Define Electronics!

  • Ron has worked for 10 years in the fuel measurement industry.
  • Leeds has the benefit of being the location of the Farnell trade counter.
  • Many startups in Leeds have been compared to Cocoon, a home automation / smart web cam.
  • Different parts of the UK are known for different things/industries
  • Bruce Kelly was the one that convinced Ron to attend the University of Leeds for his master’s degree.
  • The junk box from Farnell provided lots of inspiration for projects, especially things like the large siren and PIC12s.
  • Ron’s love of embedded comes from his interest in robotics.
  • His background in fuel measurement and delivery comes from his first gig out of college where he had to learn how to do everything.
  • Really the job was based around measuring liquids. There are multiple methods for doing so:
    • Geared flow meter – liquid squeezing through gears
    • Turbine – Measuring how much rotation is caused from liquids going past/through the turbine.
    • Ultrasound – Measuring how ultrasonic pings change as liquid properties change.
  • Mike did teardown on an ultrasonic gas meter:
  • What is a meter vs a gauge?
    • A meter is certified and is used in billing applications for the gas.
    • A gauge does not need to be and exists mostly to alert the driver to their levels.
  • The various sensors communicate on a CAN bus.
  • ATEX standards exist to make sure there’s no spark.
  • The calibrated sensors they were using i2c sensor interface.
  • While Ron also has used a variety of PICs in the past, the NXP LPC11c14 had the right mix of peripherals for his design.
  • Because density and other properties can be similar between fuels, Ron used a color sensor to delineate different fuel types.
  • CAN requires unique IDs for each node. Ron also tried creating a master node and broadcast packets to sync the variety of devices on the net. As with other ID schemes, the lowest node wins because the IDs are always XOR’d to compare the addresses.
  • ATEX requires traceability, including the unique IDs of each node.
  • Ron seems to have, “MacGuyver syndrome”. He enjoys fixing engineering problems under pressure.
    • One was an RFID solution with a relay, it turned out there was inductive kickback causing issues.
    • Another they forgot a 24V to 5V optocoupler board, so Ron rigged up a regulator that did the job for 2 years.

Many thanks to Ron for jumping on the show last minute. You can see his tweets under his handle @opticalworm

Comments

  1. Mike says

    September 14, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    Good to see someone else from Leeds! I studied electronics at the University too, although we never saw any presents from Farnell! Despite their presence, it does seem that electronics development work is increasingly being done in the South East around London, I’m finding it increasingly difficult to get work up here. On the other hand, software development seems to be flourishing.

  2. rasz_pl says

    September 15, 2015 at 6:42 am

    needed optical coupler but none in the shop? almost every single switch mode power supply has one

    • Chris Gammell says

      September 15, 2015 at 10:19 am

      I see them often on flyback converters (because of the higher voltage), but not bucks or boosts. Where are the optos on most of the ones you see?

      • rasz_pl says

        September 18, 2015 at 6:16 pm

        feedback, every single (safe) power supply has at least one

        first image when googling “liteon power supply smps pcb” :
        http://320volt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/atx-guc-kaynagi-pcb-uc3843-smps.jpg
        optocouplers are white chips marked IC2 IC3 IC4

        next picture of a pcb for this search query:
        http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1723494944_1/WORKING-GOOD–BN96-01923A-DY-450APLASMA-TV-Power-Supply-SMPS-PCB-BOARD-PART-PS42D5SX-PS42D5SM.jpg
        you can see 5 black optocouplers crossing insulation cutout barrier

        lets scroll a little and look for different form factor psu:
        http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/540875961/200w_dual_voltage_open_frame_PCB_mount.jpg

        again one crossing insulation gap

        scroll some more, oh this is a good one, “Apple iPod HIFI Dock Power Supply”:
        http://www.whatsinside.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Apple-iPod-HIFI-Dock-Power-Supply-High-to-Low-Voltage-Separation.jpg

        diagram of a random laptop psu:
        http://elektrotanya.com/PREVIEWS/power_supply/power_supply_vegyes/23432455/egyeb/liteon_pa-1121_04_out_power_schematic.pdf_1.png
        optocoupler on lower right

        and so on

        Heck, Ronald mentioned buying a soldering iron, every temp controller soldering iron has one between comparator/mcu and triac/transistor 🙂

        • Chris Gammell says

          September 18, 2015 at 7:06 pm

          “single switch mode power supply”

          My mind went to PCB level ones for DC/DC. You’re talking about offline switchers in AC/DC situations…many of which are flyback 😛

          So yes, I agree that he could have ripped apart a lot of gear and gotten at optos…I just didn’t understand what you were referring to.

Trackbacks

  1. #Define Electronics | Electronic and Mechanical Design | Proof of Concept | Turnkey Solutions | ATEX Compliance | Leeds | Mechatronic | Freelance | Ronald Sousa | Hash Define Electronics Ltd | limtied says:
    September 12, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    […] This week I was invited by Chris Gammell for an interview on the TheAmpHour.com show. In the interview, we talked about my experience in the fuel delivery industry and how I got to where I am today. Being on the show, was a great chance to talk about  manufacturing in the UK and expose their listeners to the world of ATEX. You can listen to episode that I’m in by following this link to episode #266. […]

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