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- Logic analyzers use state analysis and timing analysis. They also can do state triggering.
- Ask the listeners: What is the craziest errata you’ve ever seen?
- Dave went and picked up 100 kg of Electronics Australia magazines.
- Chris still gets tripped up by rules of thumb for the metric system. XKCD has a brilliant chart of different ways of remembering amounts.
- The CSIRO are trying out a new wireless data system that can transmit over 10 Gbps!
- They also are the rightful inventors of WiFi and receive royalty checks for people that use the standard.
- We don’t like companies that only defend patents (like Intellectual Ventures) but if they roll the money back into research, that’s ok!
- Dave was watching a TV special on a software lock technology company that took on Microsoft…and won! (well, settled)
- OSHW Association was announced recently. They will be a registered 501c3 corporation.
- Followup from the other week: The Raspberry Pi made it through EMC testing and will be manufactured and sold now. Andrew Back does a first look at a beta unit, connecting it up to a vintage CRT monitor.
- What other hobbies have home labs? Most chemists are afraid to have labs at home because they might be accused of devious behavior.
- Though they still have a ways to go, plastic electronics are getting lower impedance and are still printable.
- Molex has mini-fit crimp terminals that have a 1500 mating cycles at 13 amps!
- What are your connector design considerations?
- Chip of the Week:
- The Linear Technology LTC4366 (yes, LT again). It’s a chip that can detect and protect against incoming surges. It’s programmable for time and over voltages. Plus it can float on your rails! Cool!
Got anything we’ve missed? Want to hear something different on The Amp Hour? Let us know in the comments! And be sure to subscribe to make sure you’re getting the latest episodes right when they’re released!
Yi Yao says
“The CSIRO are trying out a new wireless data system that can transmit over 10 Mbps!”
10 Mbps? Thats like so yesterday.
The linked article says 10 Gbps. I think thats more noteworthy. 😉
Chris Gammell says
Indeed! Fixed the link.
AntiProtonBoy says
There is something wrong with the MP3 download link. When I click it, I get a file, which looks like php source code instead!
mikeselectricstuff says
That ABC doc isn’t viewable outside Oz – anyone have a link to a copy?
Dave Jones says
Bummer.
Here is a news article:
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/business-it/aussie-inventor-settles-with-microsoft-in-patent-dispute-20120315-1v5zc.html
Dave Jones says
Transcript here:
http://www.abc.net.au/austory/specials/adonedeal/default.htm
Richard says
I’ve got the same problem with the download I can’t even listen to it online
Chris Gammell says
Does this direct link work for you? http://traffic.libsyn.com/theamphour/TheAmpHour-91-IdiographicalInterconnectIntorsion.mp3
Marcos says
Sorry, I can’t download the mp3, it just points to a php source file.
Richard says
fine now
Sweeper says
In this and other shows Dave mentions “Improvised electronic devices” as an established term for something the security authorities are worried about. I have never heard this elsewhere and Google mostly seems to find pages about a Front Line Assembly album with this name.
Could it be that this is a mix-up with the term “Improvised explosive devices” (IEDs)? Airport security e.g. might worry about electronic circuitry being part of an improvised explosive device and might want to investigate further, but I doubt they will refuse people from traveling with some circuit boards as long as they are just not connected to explosives.
Am I wrong? Is security staff really banning electronics from everywhere or is it just that Dave happened to misinterpret the abbreviation IED as referring to improvised electronic devices rather than to improvised explosive devices?
FreeThinker says
ETI loved it. In the UK it was around (to the best of my knowledge) until the mid ninety’s or so the disappeared. Had every edition for over ten years until her indoors called enough and they went to the tip. Just wonder how how much they would be worth now? Looking forward to seeing them again great idea but make sure you are not infringing an copyright by using their content, isn’t it like music (licence wise)? Would love to see that format return, even Elektor is a poor substitute in comparison.
Rasz says
Sweeper there was a big case involving MIT student jailed for wearing some leds on her shirt inside an airport :/
http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N40/simpson.html
Boston blowing up blinky led banners? plenty of those
Uneducated retards in position of authority = where we are now.
chemist lab and sticking to the man? dont think so
just google “Toronto’s G20 hacker”. Hobby rockets = jail time.
Sweeper says
Rasz: Crazy. And not good.
Still, is “improvized electronic device” an established term?
Jana says
No, it isn’t. Dave regularly gets that wrong. Listeners get kind of used to it 🙂
Schneider says
See http://boingboing.net/2007/09/17/tsa-sir-this-is-an-i.html and http://boingboing.net/2007/09/28/improvising-electron.html
Mark says
Regarding the wifi, etc. I don’t think you have covered this before. The origin of spread spectrum or frequency switching came from an unlikely source:
Hedy’s Folly: The Life and Breakthrough Inventions of Hedy Lamarr, the Most Beautiful Woman in the World
I just listened to this audiobook and really enjoyed it. There is a fair amount of information about player pianos and how ideas from the player piano provided one possible implementation for switching control frequencies of a radio guided torpedo – WWII era. cool stuff.
Guan Yang says
I wish you had expressed a little more skepticism of CSIRO’s patent claims. Although it’s not one of the hated software patents, the claims in the ’069 are quite broad. Intel requested ex parte reexamination at the USPTO and 15 of the original 72 claims were struck as part of the reexamination process.
Dave Jones says
Considering that the CSIRO beat the likes of Microsoft, HP, Intel, Dell, Toshiba and others *combined*, to me shows that there must have been some validity to the patent.
And they settled too, which means they knew they were going to lose. And these are not companies that just settle willy-nilly.
Jope says
Just because big companies settle does not mean that a patent is any good. These companies are all part of the broken patent system, and are so stuck in it that they are not interested in getting rid of it.
This is a quote from Bill Gates about patents from 1991:
“If people had understood how patents would be granted when most of today’s ideas were invented, and had taken out patents, the industry would be at a complete standstill today.… The solution to this is patent exchanges with large companies and patenting as much as we can. ” (from http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Bill_Gates)
The one who pays the bill is the small companies and the consumer.
Dave Jones says
Maybe not, but these big companies have an infinite amount of money and legal resources, and they usually do not settle unless they are pretty darn certain they are going to lose the case.
Their modus-operandi in patent suits is usually never to settle, just keep throwing money and the best lawyers at it and stalling, until the smaller company goes bankrupt.
Jope says
If the amount of money to settle is smaller than the amount needed to drive the other company into bankruptcy, they will settle. And even an infinite amount of legal resources won’t help to convince a judge who has strong opinions on patents. Judges and lawyers are not engineers, and they have a different opinion on what constitutes an “overly broad patent claim”. There is a reason why in the US, most patent lawsuits take place in the Eastern District of Texas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_District_Court_for_the_Eastern_District_of_Texas
steaky says
One of our older projects uses PIC18F6680. Heres the errata sheet…
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/80162e.pdf
The best one is 14 – Certain combinations of code sequence, code placement, VDD, F OSC and temperature may
cause a corrupted read of fetched instructions or
data.
Whoops!!
Jope says
Regarding errata sheets: when the Atmel ATmega161 came out, it was the first AVR with a SPM instruction (for self-programming it’s flash memory). That’s what the errata sheet says about it:
“At certain frequencies and voltages, the store program memory (SPM) instruction may fail. Problem Fix/Workaround: Avoid using the SPM instruction.”
Goover says
Surge suppression… A DEF Stan spec for vehicle 24vdc supplied equipment includes a load dump test which applies 100vdc with 0.55 ohm source impedance for 50ms. You would need more than 50 SMC package tranzorbs in parallel to clamp that to 43v.
You need a series element to either shut down (if acceptable) or regulate through the surge. You precede that with higher voltage tranzorbs and/or some capacitance to protect the series element from high voltage low energy spikes.
The LTC4366 looks interesting. I would be more excited if it included a charge pump and level translator to drive an N channel MOSFET.
Steve says
Not plastic but details of how to make Negative Resistance devices from catwisker + zinc oxide at http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com/els/zincosc-el.htm. Might be of use for printable semiconductors?
Joe says
I noticed that Digikey has a new picture based search. Might work for connectors now that the old catalog is gone. Haven’t actually tried to find anything on it yet. http://www.digikey.com/catalog/en
Chris Gammell says
Whoa, awesome. I’ve been saying this kind of thing for months now.
bombledmonk says
You might also find this interesting:
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/general-chat/ever-wish-searching-for-parts-on-digikey-was-a-little-easier/msg98406/#msg98406
It gives a catalog feel to the regular dk interface. A bit buggy and not for full time use, but greasemonkey makes it easy to turn on an off at will. Works really well on connectors, especially if you can narrow down your search to 250 or less parts(the arbitrary limit of picture display in this version). Make sure you search “in stock” to get full effect.
Zac says
Weird confluence of events. I recommended EEVBlog to some guys on the MITX server (MIT’s experiment in open college courses) and I figured I’d go back to some of Daves early Vblogs. Guess what I came across?
The CSIRO!
Dave’s first VBlog talks about the patten suit of 802.11!
Same thing you’re talking about today. Dave, you’ve come a long way.
Best of luck,
-Z
Dave Jones says
Yes, it was indeed news that day I shot my first ever blog. Seems like so long ago!
Dave Jones says
Yes, it was indeed news that day I shot my first ever blog. Seems like so long ago!
billp says
I think the word you were searching for to describe Dave’s like for the misfortune of insertion machines failing is “Schadenfreude”
Henrik Sandaker Palm says
Weren’t you gonna post a link to a fully potted PCB in clear acrylic or something? Sounds nice.